Rise and Run

226: 2026 WDW Marathon Winner Brittany Charboneau

The RDMTeam Season 5 Episode 226

Start with a grin, stay for the goosebumps. We sit down with marathon winner and runDisney favorite Brittany Charbonneau for a candid, no-filter look at a race that felt hard from the gun, a costume with a story, and the moment she stepped off the fence to encourage the final finisher home. From sleepless nights with a teething baby to Florida humidity after Denver air, Brittany opens up about panic in the early miles, how she reset her mindset, and why a mid-race character stop with Joy was the medicine she needed to run happy again.

We also unpack the new Wine and Dine themes and what expanded 5K start windows could mean for buses, corrals, character lines, and that beloved pre-race hangout vibe. Expect thoughtful speculation, not hot takes—our focus stays on access, flow, and how to make race day feel welcoming for more runners. Then we get practical about blisters: toe socks vs. tape, lube strategies, nail care, and the honest truth that even perfect prep can still lead to hot spots across four days of running.

Brittany brings coach-level wisdom you can use this week. Practice in-run pivots to break negative loops. Accept that progress looks like a mountain range, not a ladder. Take real time off after big goals so motivation can return on its own. And most of all, remember that every story matters—front, middle, or back of the pack. Her finish-line moment with the last runner says everything about the culture we want: inclusive, kind, and loud with encouragement.

We round things out with Disneyland Half Marathon meetup details, Loopy Looper relay plans, and a race report full of coastal sun, frosty miles, and nostalgic roads. Hit play for logistics you can trust, coaching tips you can apply, and community energy that lasts beyond your cooldown. If this conversation moved you, follow, share with a running friend, and leave a quick review—your support helps more runners find their people.


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SPEAKER_09:

Welcome to the Rise and Run Podcast. Welcome to the Rise and Run Podcast. Welcome to the Rise and Run Podcast.

SPEAKER_00:

Who in the world was that? I ca I can't I'm not sure. I have a mystery voice on the intro. We'll try to figure it out as episode 226 of the Rise and Run Podcast goes along. Hello, my friends. Welcome or welcome back to the Rise and Run Podcast. I'm Bob, and I'm here with Lexi.

SPEAKER_13:

Hello.

SPEAKER_00:

With John. Hey, how are you doing? With Jack.

SPEAKER_13:

Hiya.

SPEAKER_00:

With Greg. Hey, hey, hey. And with Alicia. Hello. Hiya gang. Great to see you. Of course. Tickled to death that you're here. Tickled to death that you, our friends, are with us listening. You're gonna love this episode. One of our dear friends has joined us. If you've been with the Rise and Run family for long, and you don't have to be with us that long to know who Brittany Charbonne is. Brittany won the women's marathon at Walt Disney World this year, and she's come back to spend some time with us. And golly, do we get a big kick out of that? Our spotlight, we're back to the race report. Spotlight, our friend Lucy joins us and tells us about running in a very chilly Vermont.

SPEAKER_01:

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SPEAKER_00:

And we can use more intros, friends. Uh or we're going to get more like that mystery intro we had just a few minutes ago. Hey, we also want to thank our Patreons whose support helps us keep the Rise and Run podcast rising and running. If you would like to join the Patreon team, please check us out at Patreon.com slash rise and run podcast. And we are happy to welcome two new Patreons this week. Now, one of them, our friend Rob, he joined at the happy running level. He did it back in the middle of the marathon, and we tend to miss things during marathon week. So, Rob, welcome. Meanwhile, our friend Amy has joined us at the plastic cheese level. Thank you both, and thanks to all of our Patreons. Jack, what's going on with YouTube?

SPEAKER_13:

Yes, we put out an episode Wednesday night. Uh well, last Wednesday night. And if you are having some dopey downers or some marathon weekend blues, and you want to go ahead and relive that journey, uh, we put up a marathon video uh last week. And honestly, I watched it today and I was like, oh man, I'm already missing Marathon weekend. I miss it so much. It's always such a blast. But you know what you guys what is great that just came out is the race schedule. And who better than to ask about, you know, travel plans and talking about hotels and whatnot, planning ahead. Magic bound travel. They do a great job planning your guys' journey along the way. And if you were thinking, wow, those wine and dine themes, which we will talk about later today, um, are amazing. You're correct. And if you're thinking, maybe wine and dine, you know, that is my jam. I will go ahead and reach out to Magic Bound Travel and they can start um getting some quotes ready for you guys. And yeah, it's gonna be fun.

SPEAKER_00:

It's gonna be great. Magicboundtravel.com is their website. Check them out. Thank you, Jack. Let's take a look at the training schedule. My friends, Disneyland half marathon weekend is next week. Seven days away. We're seven days away from the expo. Training weeks are running out. It's training week 17. You got four miles this time. See you out there. Jack will see you out there. I'll see you out there. Uh, quick word on the meetup. We will meet up in the picnic area, or as Yogi Bear would say, the picnic area. Yogi Bear, to uh boo boo.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

I got that one, John.

SPEAKER_07:

Hey, hey, John, what when there's a fork in the road, take it.

SPEAKER_00:

Take it, man. Take it. All right. Hey. Meetup Saturday, 3 p.m. picnic area. If you don't know where it is, good luck. Just you know, no, no, no, no. Get between California Adventure and Disneyland, face the entrance to Disneyland, and turn left about 10 o'clock on the face of the clock. There's a lost and found over there. There are some lockers, there are some uh bathrooms, and there's a area, a large area that is encircled with tall hedges, and it is in fact labeled picnic area, and it is a great area for a meetup. So we look forward to seeing you there at 3 p.m. All right, back to the training schedule. Princess Weekend five weeks away. So there you go, Jack. You talk about Dopey Downers missing marathon, missing people, and all that. Back to Walt Disney World in five weeks. Training week 13, four miles on the schedule with a magic mile. I'll include it in those four. And then the last race of the season, springtime surprise, is 12 weeks away. Training week 12, six miles. I'm sorry, training week six. Training week six, twelve weeks away, training week six, six miles on the training schedule.

SPEAKER_13:

That means three months until the cruise.

SPEAKER_00:

That's right. Uh, 88 days, as a matter of fact, until we sail. 88 days from release day of this podcast. Still time to get in, guys. Still time, friends, to to book a room there on the annoying.com. Yeah, that right there. Gosh, Jack, you're killing it with the segue.

SPEAKER_01:

88's good for you, Jack. Delore.

SPEAKER_00:

Yep, yep. This baby hits 88 miles an hour, you're gonna see some. Um hey, one of the things we were going to talk about in our training updates, I see it on Facebook. We see it every year, is folks have accomplished a major objective, whether it's dopey, whether it's your first 5K, whether it's some whatever it is. And after accomplishing this major objective, you kind of sit down and look around and go, what do I do now? Well, instead of us talking about it, we talked about it with Brittany. So during the interview, we'll approach that there. Uh a couple things I do want to talk about before we get to our guest. Wine and dine themes. We had a kind of a sneak peek, but now we officially know what they are and what they look like. And I turn to my friends and say, What do you think?

SPEAKER_07:

They are brilliant. I think brilliant. Yes, I mean they they really knocked it out of the park between the intellectual property that they chose, the artwork, and then like the hidden details within the artwork. I just I think is awesome. I mean, you know, the fact that you have races themed to aristocrats, the three caballeros. Now, yes, it is Mary Poppins theme, but the fact that they're featuring the penguins, you know, so like yeah, C-level characters in terms of that movie. And then I I think the one that probably took everybody surprise I I guess we're gonna call this just now this year only. Instead of it being the two-course challenge, maybe we're calling it the Grumpy Challenge. I like it.

SPEAKER_10:

That's what everybody's calling it.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, yeah. I mean I like it. I it bravo, and then and I think one of my favorite parts about the artwork is how they incorporated the idea of food and wine into like the I or the concept of food into like little monuments that are associated with those countries. You know, the fact that you know, the aristocrats, you know, the Eiffel Towers made out of cheese, and then I think it was you have the pretzel for for um for Grumpy. Now, the only spot where I think they missed it, and this is a huge shout out to my who I call my goofy movie Soul Sister Kristen, uh, Run Fit Mama, they really could have done Italy for the 5k, and it could have been the leading tower of Cheesa. Oh again, all credit to her. She came up with that, not me, but when I saw it, I was like, that that's brilliant. So that's the only part where they really missed the mark. But you know, again, top to bottom, they they nailed it. Way to go, Run Disney.

SPEAKER_00:

I'll be looking forward to seeing the medals.

SPEAKER_13:

I'm just really loving the fact that the Aristocats have not been on any medals as far as I know, and they finally get featured in the picking characters that aren't as readily featured as a lot of our other ones. Like, yeah, we've seen Remy a few times, we've you know, we've seen the Muppets a few times now. It's kind of nice um having some first timers out, and it makes it exciting to see what the course might be at be like with all the characters out. So I'm assuming Marie is gonna come out, but if any of those other um Aristacats come out too, that would be really cool.

SPEAKER_10:

I just have to say I'm really excited that because I'm a perfect challenger, that I get it. I was wondering how long it was gonna take you to mention that you were perfect. That I get to do the challenge because I I do think that one's gonna be hard just to get into just because it's everybody's calling it the goofy or the grumpy. The grumpy challenge. Um but yeah, I'm very excited about that. But I really do agree that I think that how they simplistically but also thoughtfully brought in the characters and then also the countries that you see around Epcot. I just think that it's the first time in a while we've seen something really cohesive for wine and dining. Absolutely. I really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_07:

Jack, going back to your point about like you know, they picked IP that they never used. In theory, if we're getting technical, wasn't there one year this is now this is pre-COVID? Wasn't the challenge metal the three caballeros?

SPEAKER_13:

Like, didn't yes, it was it was like pyramid.

SPEAKER_07:

So like I remember that metal being really, really cool, but I mean, but at the same time, I think it's been such big of a gap that you know I I thought it was a it was an awesome choice for them to to give it its own particular race, not necessarily the uh you know the the challenge or something like that.

SPEAKER_13:

Well, I don't even think Grumpy's had a race, has he? That I don't not that I'm aware of.

SPEAKER_07:

I mean, obviously we have Dopey and clearly Snow White's been on a bunch of medals, but I think that's the only really Snow White representation. I mean, now it the one group that I think should be really excited is the management over at the Wilderness Lodge because now they have two races uh in 2026 where the most sought-after reservation uh post-race weekend is gonna be Artist Point uh storybook dining. So um, you know, so Wilderness Lodge uh lovers are real happy right now.

SPEAKER_00:

Grumpy's at the I didn't realize Grumpy's at the dinner. I know Dopey is and the Queen and Grumpy is, huh?

SPEAKER_10:

Okay, Grumpy, the Queen, um Snow White, and Dopey. Right. Just ate their this last trip and it was good.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, thanks. It's been a little while for me.

SPEAKER_07:

I I wonder that's what your review was of that because I've never I've never been there and I've always heard good things. So you liked it a little bit. It's worth it.

SPEAKER_10:

So I mean, I'm limited for the plant-based options, but for the plant-based option, I really like it. Um and my mom had the fish, which I believe was salmon, and she liked it this time. Um, she's had a couple different things, but yeah, it's always been decent.

SPEAKER_07:

Now, I I will say other victory meal that popped out in my head too, and Bob, I know this is a favorite uh of yours and mine, and and John, I think yours too, is the fact that there's that big pretzel in the the the challenge artwork for Grumpy. You gotta go to beer garden too. Oh my gosh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

It's the pretzel and the brats for the white weights.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

It's beautiful. I was gonna say, I've been to the uh storybook dinner twice, Greg. And I'm gonna say it's a little pricey, but character dining. It's a Disney, but uh but yeah, they do a good job with the characters, and the food is good. I I enjoyed it the two times I went. So good stuff. All right, so let me take a look here. Just for for reference, Wine and Dine weekend, 39 weeks away.

SPEAKER_06:

So there you go.

SPEAKER_00:

However, we register Yeah, yeah, 39 weeks, 273 days. Yep. Uh we register for it in about three weeks. I got my reservations ready set for that weekend. Okay, good.

SPEAKER_06:

Nice.

SPEAKER_00:

We register the the the regular folks, not the club run Disney, regular station.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah, I was gonna say, but the regular the regular registration is on the 10th.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I was just gonna I was just gonna be quiet for a while.

SPEAKER_07:

All right, so Leasha's in, John is in Bobber Ewan.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I'll be there that weekend for sure. I don't know what races I'll be doing. Jack, how about you?

SPEAKER_13:

I don't know if I'm doing Hong Kong Disneyland yet or not. And that's usually around the same time as Wine and Dine. So if I don't, I'll just see if Twigs uh just wants a pacer for the half. I'll probably try and get in for that.

SPEAKER_14:

Caution runners, change of topic ahead.

SPEAKER_07:

Well, I think the other thing that we got to chat about when it comes to the news that dropped today is I know last week we had a very brief conversation of hey, Good Morning America was there, and they have this breaking news about there's gonna be expanded uh 5K slots, and we talked about, hey, how are they gonna pull this off? Well, apparently, uh how they're gonna pull it off, according to Run Disney on the uh the 5K page, they uh, and this is quoting the page exactly, the first group of runners for the 2026 Wine and Dine 5K will start at 4:30 a.m. 30 minutes earlier than before. Participants' start times will range from 4:30 a.m. to 7:30 a.m. based on assigned start groups. Arrival times will vary depending on your start time. Updated details coming soon. Stay tuned for more information. So now we they have a game plan. What do we think about this?

SPEAKER_13:

This is either gonna be fantastic or it's gonna be like it's it's got some some work to do. But I'm just trying to think like if you were in that first corral or the first few, I even know from 4:30 to 7:30, you can't even get on those buses until the last person goes by. So I'm thinking all those people are just gonna be stuck waiting because you you can't go unless they're gonna be able to do that. Oh, I know what you're saying.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, unless they change the course, which they could. They probably wouldn't be that hard.

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah, actually, no, they probably could change the course.

SPEAKER_00:

They could, yes. Of course they could. Because we know from the past that hasn't always been the course, just the last couple of years. So it could. Uh I didn't think about that. That's a good point though, Jack.

SPEAKER_10:

So I want to preface this before I say my thoughts that I really do hope that it works out and that everybody's had a good time and that it it really is a benefit for everybody. But my biggest concerns are first, our friends like to see their friends. And if they're not able to, I don't know how they're gonna hold people back. And I feel like that's just gonna be a whole situation as is like, are they gonna hold you before you get on the buses? Are they holding you at the reunion area? Like, where are they holding people? And then also, I know even this last race weekend, there was like families that were in different corrals. What if they are in different time slots? If they're holding people, like, are you able to go back? Like, if your kid ends up in a different time slot than you, like I I don't understand.

SPEAKER_00:

That's that when that has occurred, when a child and a parent have been sent to different corrals, Run Disney has always corrected that. Okay, I'm not aware of a time when you may have to go to race relations, in fact, you do, but I know several people have that's happened to, it's always been corrected. So that I I I don't disagree with what you said, but that particular problem could it come up? Yes, but it would be fixed.

SPEAKER_07:

Alicia, going to your points, the the one thing when I read the the the verbiage of start groups, that triggered a memory for me of those first races coming out of COVID, yeah. Where instead of having you know corral ABC, it was S1, S2, S3, but in theory, those were never in my mind start groups, those were just a different labeling system for for the corrals. So I based on that, it sounds like I think that they might actually have to employ that if that is the route that they're going to go. Granted, I I'm gonna give Run Disney, you know, the benefit of the doubt to see them pull this off. But I mean, you know, similar concerns to you is uh concern number one is with new bus logistics that are going to go into this, number one thing that has to happen is Myra needs to get back to Pop Century. Uh number number two is in your thought about the course, I'm gonna be very interested to see how they lay out a new 5K course because if they go with the traditional courses that they have been using for the last couple of years. We run by that first that first mile is where the buses pick us up and exit. That's what Jack was saying, yeah. Yeah, and and the idea that you know like the people that decide to race the 5k, they in theory are stuck in the family reunion area until the entire group clears, so they're not going to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00:

There's got to be a different solution.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah. Now the part that I'd be interested to see is so usually as we go through the starting gate, typically we're always turning right. I'd be interested to see if there's a way that we could turn left, similar to like what we just did for like the half marathon. But is there a way that they could loop us back into Epcot without touching the entrance gate? Because then that would allow them the ability to bring still bring buses in, it not affect the runners, and in terms of starting the course and then still being able to get buses out. So with all those on-ramps and off-ramps, they're right there in that section between the family reunion area and the Epcot parking entrance. Um, you know, if there's an on-ramp or off-ramp there, I think that's the way they're gonna have to go, but I'm not sure if they can map it out that way. So it's gonna be very intriguing.

SPEAKER_00:

You know what? There's always a way. You know why? Disney magic. Disney magic.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm looking at the 2019 map, and actually they started out where we're where the half marathons usually started, and they went the other way through Epcot. So they they they they they started in Canada. You know, why did you who starts in Canada?

SPEAKER_07:

How dare they? I know we all know you start in Mexico.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I know, I know, I know. So they can build some uh what do you call time there and then scrub on through and come out the back like they did. So there is a possibility.

SPEAKER_10:

Well, and if we came out the way we've been coming out, instead of going right, go left. That would be a hard left. But if we went back that way and then took the hill up like you do when at the end of the half marathons, um, I believe that would just go straight back in there and then it wouldn't be touching where the buses would be coming in.

SPEAKER_00:

Hey gang, we're overanalyzing this. Watch what watch what happens. We get to next fall and the 5K is in Animal Kingdom.

SPEAKER_07:

I was just about really saying it's a completely different part.

SPEAKER_00:

That would be so cool. Yeah. So let's let's wait and see. I we're not the only people that have thought of this. I'm sure the people who have created the race have thought of this too.

SPEAKER_13:

But also on on a on a kind of more of a last note, though, this is good because think of how many more people are gonna go into it on into registration so much more relaxed.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I like it, Jack.

SPEAKER_13:

Because it's a it's scary whenever you try and do a 5k because it goes so fast, usually within 45 minutes to an hour. And if you don't get in with that time, you're not gonna get in. So I think this is gonna be great. I'm just curious to see how Disney does it.

SPEAKER_07:

Well, and the other logistical thing, not necessarily a transportation thing. I mean, yes, the fact that people are there's gonna be a three-hour gap of people starting, clearly that is going to spread the field out. I'd be very interested to see how it spreads the field out and it relates to character stops because we all know how insane the lines get, you know, for those characters. You know, I mean, sure, with that short of a race, like, yes, people are gonna get it done, but like, is there gonna be an impetus then be like, oh, well, I know that people are still gonna not gonna be starting for another two hours, so I'm just gonna take my sweet old time and hit every character stop, and they're they're hanging out in a world showcase for two and a half hours for 5k. That's gonna be interesting to see.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it could happen. I like what you said, Jack. It's gonna allow more people to get to it. And Alicia, I I agree. I love that early morning when we're all hanging together. It is going to affect that. It is. Uh, I'm not gonna get if I get a 7 30 corral, I'm not gonna get there at 4 30 just so I can see everybody. I want to see you, but sorry, I'm not gonna do that, and vice versa, but that's okay. If if I have to wait until the 10K to see everybody, so be it. I like the fact that more people can participate.

SPEAKER_13:

You guys might actually see corral P as in a letter. Corral P. We used to have them.

SPEAKER_00:

I remember O, Alicia. I remember getting to O. Yeah, 2016 wine and dine. I yeah.

SPEAKER_10:

Didn't we go to R?

SPEAKER_00:

Golly, I it maybe. I I remember O because my buddy Chris was in Corral O.

SPEAKER_10:

It was a lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, it it is interesting. It is going to allow more people to participate in that 5K. It is going to take some of the pressure off of registration day. Uh, but and again, we're not the only people who have uh who have brainstormed these ideas. I'm sure that the race organizers have thought of them, and I'll be surprised and interested and waiting to see for the weekend race guide to come out.

SPEAKER_07:

Hey, Bob, I'd have to put you on the spot here in terms of planning logistics, but uh, you know, in speaking to today's news about the 5K, I did see a post on our Facebook group about registering multiple people for the 5K. Do we have any plans in terms of I I know we don't have our Facebook chats anymore. I mean, I guess we could try to use Discord, but do we have any plans in terms of registration day like Zoom hangouts or you know how how we're gonna help our friends?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we'll use Zoom. We've used it the last couple of years. Uh last not last couple of years, last couple of races. Uh, I I am going to miss the chat. That's a good question, Greg. Discord is not the same. We'll use Discord, but yeah, we'll also we'll plan to have a Zoom that morning.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I'll set up a registration uh chat.

SPEAKER_14:

Caution runners, the topic is about to change right now.

SPEAKER_00:

You know what else I was thinking? I was thinking, what would Alicia do?

SPEAKER_10:

So, Bob, I listened to the podcast that you guys recorded last week.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, at least at least somebody does. Jack never does, you know.

SPEAKER_13:

No, you guys, you guys thought I don't, and then you guys mentioned it in a podcast, and I remember messaging you being like, You guys thought I wouldn't listen. I definitely listen.

SPEAKER_10:

To be honest, I don't listen a lot. I I listen to the ones that I'm not on. Um, because the ones that I'm on, I I know what happened.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10:

Um but I listened, and Bob, you were talking about your experience with getting a blister on your toe. Um, and this is a topic that I wanted to talk about for a while, and also an experience that I had during the marathon. Um, of I got blisters on my toes. Um, and I almost always will get um black toenails, no matter if I were the same socks, the same shoes, I've been fitted. Um, so I'm wondering if you guys have had experiences with blisters. Obviously, Bob, we heard that you did. Um what you do to try and combat that. Um, but also I want to remind our listeners that like if you have been fitted um for proper shoes and you know that they're right and you know that your socks and stuff have been working for you, it can happen during a marathon. Um matter if you do everything right. Um, so I just want to put that out there that if it happened to you, know that it is part of the marathon. It can even be part of a shorter race, too. Um, so don't fret. It is, it is unfortunately part of running. Um but is there anything you guys do?

SPEAKER_01:

One of the best pieces of advice that Chris Twiggs ever gave me in gingy socks.

SPEAKER_13:

Yes! I was gonna say that, John.

SPEAKER_00:

Hey, guess what I was wearing on Sunday? Ging on gingy socks. So I have worn this pair to multiple races.

SPEAKER_01:

But wait, but wait, I also put on like a like a Vaseline type uh silicon. Yeah, you can do that. Like gel on my on my feet before I put the socks on, so that's extra, you know, friction gone. But I mean before I before I started wearing those, I'd have blisters on top of my toenails and on the side of my feet. But when I started wearing these, I mean, yeah, I got a blister like like on the tip of my toe, which I my pointer toe on my foot always gets one. That nail always goes black. That's the only nail that goes black, but that's about it. But everything else has been great since I started using those socks.

SPEAKER_07:

And a reminder, it's right foot, right sock, right shoe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10:

You didn't do it right, Bob.

SPEAKER_01:

I wonder why that little toe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_13:

And if anybody doesn't know what N D socks are, they're basically toe socks. And they're wonderful. They're they're right.

SPEAKER_07:

Gloves for your feet.

SPEAKER_13:

Yes, they're fantastic, and they do work well. And there are some other ways you don't have to get toe socks in in general. I know for I know for Adam, he will tape up his toes. Okay. And he'll tape up his toes to yeah, and then um obviously clip the toenails. Yeah, don't forget to do it.

SPEAKER_00:

I get a pedicure.

SPEAKER_13:

Yes.

SPEAKER_00:

I I go to get I go to get a pedicure before uh marathon weekend.

SPEAKER_13:

I need to be more like you, Bob. I try to do a pedicure and I just felt ticklish.

SPEAKER_00:

And I was just that happens too.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

But let's go back to what Alicia said. You can do everything right and still get a blister. Right. I kinda did. Um and I cannot remember the last time it happened. And it's not a it wasn't a huge deal. It hurt more after the event. I didn't even notice it during the event. I noticed it after. But here we are a week out and I'm fine.

SPEAKER_10:

Right. So, yeah, mine are okay too. And I always put um body glide on my toes, and my um I came back and I said I had blisters on my toes. She was like, I saw you put that on your toes. I saw you do it. I was like, Yep, I put it under my bra too, and I still chafed there. So I don't do you guys think that stuff expires? Maybe I need to get new.

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know. I don't think it does. I mean, uh I'll offer one more, but I don't think it's practical for runners. Back in the days when I was a basketball player, we would wear two pairs of socks. We would wear a thin pair and then a thicker pair. Uh, I don't know if you want to do that for running, but it's certainly it's another layer to reduce the friction. That more helps because the the uh blisters you'd get there would be on the balls of your feet typically from the start and stop.

unknown:

Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

So that's a little different.

SPEAKER_13:

And to be honest, like the longer the distance you do, the more likely you're gonna get them regardless. If you're doing dopey, that's four days. Something's gonna happen pro potentially. There's a good potential. I mean, it's it's a thing runners get, you know, right after.

SPEAKER_00:

I keep I keep chuckling, not because everything you've said is right, but five dopeies, zero blisters. Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've only done two, but absolutely, and then one marathon walking the whole way, not even going the full 26 because I took the lightning lane, remember? Um and I got the mother of all blisters. It's okay, kids. It comes back to what Alicia said. You can do it right, and it's a long distance, it can still happen.

SPEAKER_13:

Especially if it rains, but it didn't rain. That throws a whole other time.

SPEAKER_01:

That just throws a whole other uh, what do you call animal into the mix?

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah. Let me let me uh rewind the tape.

SPEAKER_01:

No, you're you're fine. I'll Greg cut out cut that out, Greg. Put it on the soundboard, Bob. Yeah, that'd be perfect.

SPEAKER_00:

But I'll go back. It was only four miles, but it did that four miles in what was basically Lake St. Petersburg. No blisters. Ah, golly. Hey, good piece. Hey, I hope you got something out of that, friends. There is good advice in there somewhere. Uh, John's idea of using a uh a lubricant Vaseline or something else. I mean, that'd work. If you know you're prone to blisters, that's a good idea. I I wouldn't do it normally because I normally don't get them. So it does help.

SPEAKER_14:

Caution runners, change of topic ahead.

SPEAKER_00:

Hey friends, our next guest is no stranger to the Rise and Run podcast. If you're a Run Disney fan, you call her a champion. Greg calls her the Run Disney goat. She calls herself a certified weirdo, but we, we in the Rise and Run family get the best title of all. We get to call Brittany Charbonneau our friend, and we are delighted. Brittany, we're glad you won because that means you're back here again to celebrate another marathon victory. Welcome back.

SPEAKER_12:

Thank you. I think I would weasel my way in even if I didn't win. I would be like, what's happening? I need to catch up.

SPEAKER_00:

We'd find a way. We'd find a way. Hey, uh actually, I really do want to catch up. I'm not sure. It hasn't been terribly long. I think right around episode 200. So that was uh about four or five months ago. But we we had a chance, friends. You didn't get you don't get privy, you're not privy to everything and you can't see the videos. But before we started recording, we had a uh a guest uh guest spot. Uh Hugo was with us. We got to see Hugo and wave high and all that. Brittany, how's life how's life been as a mom?

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, the best thing in the whole world, honestly. Um he's almost a year, he turns a year in like a week, which is out of control. Um, it's just I I like can't explain how much I love being a mom. And I really was so unsure. Like I was like, I just I don't know. Like I definitely have my selfishness. Um, I love my me time, I love all of that, and it's just he's just enhanced everything. Like it's just joy and hard work, of course, but um, I'm absolutely loving being a mom.

SPEAKER_07:

That's wonderful, Brittany. Speaking of being the mom, obviously this was a monumental weekend for you, but I feel like maybe in your mind, an even bigger moment for you is this was Hugo's first trip to Disney, correct?

SPEAKER_12:

First trip to Disney, first time to Florida, and it was just it was the best week. Like, so we flew in on Sunday before the marathon, and we had all week there, so we got to just like hang in our resort and do pool time. He's never been in a pool, so he loved that. We went to Crayola, he loved that. Um, we did Magic Kingdom and Animal Kingdom one day. We did the um uh expo, obviously. It was just fun, it was just like such a great week to just get to spend time there. And then, of course, the race was just icing on the cake of a great week. So uh, and I feel like we got to like do stuff and it wasn't so jam-packed that it was like we were exhausted. Like, I'm glad we had a week there. It was it was just it was just a whole different experience with even though he's not even one, it was still just like such an amazing experience. It was awesome.

SPEAKER_07:

Well, we gotta know what was his first Walt Disney World attraction.

SPEAKER_12:

Okay, so this sounds bougie, but it's you guys. Um, the only times I've been to Walt Disney World were after Dopey, and then the year after that I came, we only did the VIP experience, which I remember that, yep. Uh so this time we and that's all like planned out for you, which was epic. Um, but this time it was like, um, I don't know. My vocal coach happened to be in town. So uh we met her at Magic Kingdom and we did the jungle cruise, we did Pirates, and then we did It's a Small World, and I've never done any of those. Uh so it was awesome. I think I just about cried. We were in the fret seat of It's a Small World, and I've never been on it. It was the most lovely ride. Hugo's like checking everything out, he's holding a nice fingers. It was just like the most wonderful memory of like, oh, this is what it's about. I loved it.

SPEAKER_00:

Awesome. Has he started walking yet?

SPEAKER_12:

He's so close. He's close, yeah. Stands, and then he he actually took his first couple steps at um on this trip. Um, so he's like taking his little steps. Um, he's not super consistent yet, but we credit that like the magic of Disney um gave him the confidence in his first steps.

SPEAKER_13:

I was gonna say that's so cool. How many people could say that their kids' first steps were at Disney? I mean, iconic.

SPEAKER_12:

Like first steps this year, first round next year.

SPEAKER_07:

I was gonna say by next marathon weekend, he'll be running uh a sub 35k, you know, since since uh mom coach will be uh on him hard.

SPEAKER_00:

Five years, 5K, that's right. Yeah, for baby starting to walk is the first big big change because now you got to start putting stuff out of reach.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, it's already everything's gotta be out of reach. He's got locks on cabinets, he's into everything. Um, and I think the crawling stage is actually harder because like we can't just it was hard at the airport, for example, because we can't just like set him down. He wants to crawl over the floor, or at Disney, we can't just like we have to hold him or like keep him somehow contained, which he doesn't want to do, and he can't crawl all over, but he'll crawl all over concrete, but you're like um so I think I'll kick like come on, let's get some of these steps going that might ease things, even though you're gonna be even crazier now.

SPEAKER_00:

That's cool. Anything else new in your life since we last talked to you? You how's uh you still competing as a runner with the uh trail and mountain team?

SPEAKER_12:

Um, so I'm on um still with North Face. Um and so the way that Trail works is they only have the world championships every other year. So they just had the world championships this past year for the US team. Um, and I didn't compete, I didn't um run in any races to qualify, which was good. This this year's courses were in Spain, and apparently they were like blistering and super hard. So I'm like, that might have been not a good thing postpartum. So um that's the goal for 2027 is to train again and um compete next year in the world championship.

SPEAKER_00:

Excellent. Well, we look forward to hearing about that.

SPEAKER_13:

Do you know what races you might be eyeing?

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, so um I'm going to do the Mount Fuji 40k in no yes, it's a North Face event. Um Justin and Hugo are gonna come. Uh and I was like, an excuse to go to Japan, yes. Yeah, that's in April, and then I'm running OCC in France in August. Okay, and then I'm running, I think I'm gonna target the Havelina 100K. No, that's a hard one. Which is on Halloween. And I hear the Havelena races are just a party. And I like that. Yeah. Is these races just sound up my alley. So I think that's my um schedule for the year that I've mapped out so far. Do you have a costume idea for uh Havelena? Well, so my dream is actually to do costume changes mid- love that. I know I was like, my Disney people get it. I have to pitch it to my trail people. Um, because they're like, I don't understand. Like you need to run fast. I'm like, no, I'm gonna do both. Um, so I don't know what I'm gonna do, what my characters or my costumes will be yet, but that's uh my vision as of now.

SPEAKER_00:

I love that. Cool. Uh that's great. That all sounds wonderful. Glad you've got all that in front of you. We want to hear all about it, of course, but I know you won't let us down there. That'd be great. Uh let's go back to just a well, a little over a week ago, almost two weeks ago now, and talk about that epic Walt Disney World Marathon. This is your first race back at Walt Disney since winning Dopey, right?

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, yeah. I came back the year after Dopey to cheer and then um yeah, have a race back here since now it's been four years since Dopey, which is feels crazy.

SPEAKER_00:

It does feel crazy.

SPEAKER_12:

Wow.

SPEAKER_00:

It does. It does because even though I just said it and I knew it was true, I didn't realize it was four years. Wow. I know. Wow. So what were your emotions like uh coming up to the start of this one?

SPEAKER_12:

Um I was excited. I mean, I had jumped in kind of last minute, like I think I um asked if I could run the race maybe like six weeks before or so. I was training for it. Um, so I raced to 50k on the trails in October. Um, and I was feeling pretty good. And I was like, you know, I want to like just put some speed in and I'll just kind of see what happens if I can put some speed together. Um and I was planning to be down at Disney anyway because I was coaching a bunch of people that were doing dopey and the other races. So I thought, well, I'll just start to train, see how my body's feeling, see how like schedule in life is going, and then if it works, I'll jump in um and just see what I can do. Um, so it felt good. Like I felt like I put together a fun, I had a fun like couple month training cycle. Um, felt good coming into it. And then it's just like it almost just felt like so um relaxingly comforting in the sense of like, oh, I'm back home. Like I got like this is like it wasn't the same nerves like Dobie. Like it wasn't anything like that where it was like, and it didn't really feel like starting line nerves, it just felt like, oh, I just get to go run in one of my favorite places, like I'm back where I belong. Um, so that's kind of I was thinking, I think, at the beginning.

SPEAKER_07:

That's awesome. Well, I think one of the reasons why you probably didn't have any nerves is because in what we come to expect from Britney Charbonneau is you showed up for this race in costume. Give us the reasoning by behind why you dressed as flower the skunk.

SPEAKER_12:

Okay, so here we go. This is so two big reasons. Number one, I often get called out lovingly on North Space that they're like, uh Brittany, like, can you just be on brand? Like, you're supposed to wear your current race kit, like that's the simplest thing in your contract that you need to do. And I've had to take creative liberty, um, especially at Disney races. So this year I was like, I'm gonna be an A plus student, I'm gonna wear our actual kit, um, which is that flower pattern. Um, and I was like, perfect, flower the skunk. Um, and I could easily, you know, put the stripes on my um back, wear a tail, wear ears, spray paint my hair, all of that. Um, so that was reason number one. Reason number two, when I was in high school, um I moved in with my dad, and we had this insane infestation of skunks living under our house, and um they just wouldn't go away. And the thing is, when you've got skunk smell, you you get used to it. So I was going to school at this private high school with these bougie kids, and I was this like underdog that would show up and I smelled like a skunk. Um and like, no, and I like I didn't fit in in high school, um, in the sense of like I couldn't keep up monetarily. Um, so I had to kind of step into this funny role. Like I had to, I was like, well, I can't keep up with you with any of your your stuff. Like you have like nice cars and cool clothes, and I got like knockoff Abercrombie with holes in it, and I drive this beater pickup truck named Black Beauty, um, and I run cross country, but I can be funny and like I can like kind of hold my own in that realm. And so I kind of had to just embrace that. So it was kind of this also this nod to like look how far you've come. Like you used to be the Snelly kid in class when like I would run back then, but I wasn't like, you know, anything spectacular. And it's just kind of fun to be like, look at this skunk, like still out here, just like getting after it. Um, and then I looked up, I like to look up symbolism of animals. And the skunk was really cool because it was like you can a skunk protects its boundaries. So I knew kind of coming into this, I was like, I need to also just protect my boundaries um and make sure like I'm just kind of like cocooning our little family. Um, and a skunk is also very authentic and it kind of owns its stripes. And so that's kind of what I felt like I did, and that's kind of what I felt like I did even to the finish line, and we'll get to the finish line video and all of that. But I like after that came out, I was like, I was just being my skunk self. Like I would have done that. I was just doing that no matter what. So um it was kind of like all-encompassing um different elements of flower to skunk in an underrepresented character, I think, too.

SPEAKER_08:

So let's talk about the race a little bit. Getting to the start line, were there any like challenges like the weather or sickness or anything that forced you to make some adjustments?

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah. Uh I have a one-year-old and um he got a mild case of hand, foot, and mouth right before. No. That was super. Um, and he was just uh he was teething also, so that was awesome. Um, so he was just fussy. Um, and in our hotel, we um had space that I could have slept somewhere else, but Hugo wasn't sleeping well that whole week just because he doesn't sleep well at a pack and play. So we were having to toss him in bed with us, but he just had one of the worst nights of sleep ever the night before the race. I think Justin like slept upright holding him, and Justin probably got an hour and a half total of sleep. I probably got on and off like three or four hours total. Um, and then I my alarm went off at two. So it was like, okay, like, but I feel like I've I was tired, but I feel like I I just run tired now. Like that's just kind of my like new norm. Um, so I had to like adjust with that a little bit of like um something I wasn't expecting. I mean, the week was tiring, but I got in rest, but it wasn't like a normal pre-race day um on the Saturday before I got up and cheered at TTC um for the half marathon. Um, so I was tired from that, napped, but it wasn't like I was like off my feet or anything. I was chasing around, you know, a toddler. So that was definitely like, oh, I feel like a lot of times I'm going into these races a little more rested. Um so that was just something that I like had to kind of contend with. And then the humidity for me, because I'm coming from Denver and I felt like it was like particularly humid that day. Um, and I was like, I don't know if it was me or just coming from Denver or what, but those are two things that like definitely jumped out from the morning.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it's a little bit of both. Uh it was it was humid for a winter day, but it wasn't humid for Florida. It wasn't coming out of Colorado though, I'm sure, I'm sure it felt that way.

SPEAKER_10:

So, Brittany, you managed to get to the race despite all of that. Do you feel like there was a specific mile or moment during the race that really turned in your favor?

SPEAKER_12:

Man, I felt like this was like I actually had a so it's it's hard because I'm, you know, of course I'm so excited and proud to win a marathon. Like, don't get me wrong, that's not lost on me. That that is something that is so special that I don't take for granted. Um, like I've had I've won many, many marathons, and I understand that like that's something that most people don't experience, especially at Dizzy. Um, but for me, I was really disappointed in how my race went. Um, in the sense of I thought I felt like I was in better shape than I performed. So when I was running um my like splits, I was running like I think I went out at like a 630 pace or something like that. And it felt, I was expecting that to feel much easier, especially at sea level than it did. And just the whole day, the whole race just felt hard. And it just felt harder than I felt like it should have. And that kind of threw me off. So I was in second place um until about mile five. And then um I took the lead at mile six. And I kind of just from like probably mile six through 10, I panicked a little. Like I felt like I was running scared. Um, and I felt like I was like running a little bit too hard for what I should be at that point of the race. And it, I was like looking at my splits every mile and I was like, this just feels way too hard for what like I know I'm capable of, what I've been training, but like I don't know what to do. And so luckily, so my lead cyclist, his name is Mark. He's been the lead cyclist on, I think almost all of my Disney races. He's amazing. Um, and he just so he rides next to me the whole way, and then he just like kept encouraging me. It was seriously him that was getting me through that thing because I was like, I was in one of those days that I was like, I don't want to do this. I want to give up. If I don't win, like that feels embarrassing. If I don't win, that's okay. But like, how do I grapple with second, third, fourth place um when I felt like I could have won or I felt like I could have gone faster? And then really where my brain was going um from my world, I was like, this this pace and this speed is kind of embarrassing. Like it, it wouldn't even in a let's say in like a big uh like a world major marathon, for example, I would be like hundredth, two hundredth place. And that just felt jarry. And I just kept like telling my story in my brain of like my time has passed, like, like you just those like stories that you're telling yourselves when it gets hard in a race that everybody is, it's just we're telling ourselves something different based on our circumstances, our story, you know, whatever that is. So it was a it was a mental, a mentally tough day. But then when I got to, I feel like I feel like there was a point in the race that Mark, the lead cyclist, told me I had, you know, a couple minutes lead. And that was maybe maybe like mile 15, 16. And I I like felt like I could relax. So I felt like, okay, even if I slow down 15, 30 seconds a minute per mile, I'm still okay right now. And that was when I was like, you know what? You need to let the time go. You need to just where are you? Why are you here? What is round about this? You have to remember why you're here. And like something that jumped out at me from the um watching the half marathon is I was like, when people are watching me out here, I want them to know how much I really love being here and how much I appreciate the cheering. And so that became my importance was like, how can I wave to everybody on course if like I'm not having the best day? I can still hold this pace, I can do this, I can soak up all these moments. And then I was like, okay, if I have a big enough lead, by the time I think Joy is out here, I am getting a character stop because I've never done a character stop. Yeah. Um, and I was like, that's a goal. And so she was at like mile 23 or something. So I like bolted off course, my lead cyclist took off, and he was like, What's happening? What's happening? And I was like, I'll be right back, I'll be right back. Um, and then I was just like, it was kind of just hanging on, to be honest. So um I I I hope people listening and they're like, like, even if you're winning, it can still be just a tough day, and that's what it was for me. So I'm cool that I pulled it together, that I stayed in it, that I um remember why I was there, that I didn't give up. Um, and that I think was just a good, I felt like I walked away with a great mental win that day when I wasn't particularly proud of my time.

SPEAKER_10:

I think that's such an important message because I think there's this idea that because you're an elite runner, that you're at a higher level mentally and physically than we are, but we're all runners and we all have good days and bad days. So I think that that message is super important. And the way that you were able to turn it around and bring this kind of fun atmosphere and get that picture with joy is really kind of like this fruitful moment, and then to win it too is amazing. Thanks. Thanks.

SPEAKER_12:

And it was truly, Mark, the cyclist kept saying, like, breathe in positivity, breathe out negativity. And I've never like that's a cliche thing, but I had to do it in that moment, in those moments. Like I really did have to be like, you're being such a jerk to yourself, like and like really visualized breathing that out. And he also kept saying, Stop fighting it, like stop fighting. Cause I was like, This is so hard. And I just was like, he was like, stop fighting it. And so I did, I just felt myself relax and my cases stayed the same. I ended up getting a little bit faster, also. But um, that was really helpful too.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow, that guy's really good, man. He he really understands that's that's outstanding.

SPEAKER_07:

Well, Brittany, I I know you probably thought that you didn't have it in the bag until until later in the race. I'm gonna tell you when you had it in the bag, and that was when I saw you at the TTC at about mile 11 and a half or so. And by the way, I apologize for screaming bloody murder when you ran by. And and I grant, and I know all of a sudden I saw you like turn your head and like scan to try to figure out where it was coming from. So thank you for the acknowledgement because I just wanted to repay the favor that you gave me during the half marathon, but I knew you had it in the bag at that point because what I did is the moment that you passed by me, I was a little delayed in doing this, but I pulled out my phone and I got my stopwatch going. And I was like, I'm not gonna stop this until I see the next female runner. And at that point, you had a two and a half minute lead on second place at that point. And then as I was following the splits, because I wish Run Disney would give us a little bit more splits compared to like, say, like a world major or something. Like the fact that you, you know, we went go from it was 10 half marathon and then 20. So obviously, a lot can happen in in those spans, but the fact that like when I refreshed tracking and I saw you were still holding the same pace even at the at the 20-mile mark, I was like, oh yeah, she's she definitely has this um in the bag. So but even though I thought it was a mile and 11 and a half, was it at Joy that that you think you had it, or what was your thought process on that?

SPEAKER_12:

Thank you. Um, I distinctly remember seeing you at TTC and like recognizing and like rep like recognizing the familiar face, right? Like, because there's so many people, and so I like love that. That was such a boost. Um, so thank you. Um I think um Mark started telling me where I was like like time-wise where second place was, and I kept gaining a lead. So, but I still just like was like, I mean, in my world, anything can happen. I've I've taken second place being in third place at mile 25 of a marathon at Dopey. I didn't take first place until mile 20 or something like that. Wow. So I ain't gonna go, anything could happen. So I was like, even at that point, I I knew I had a two and a half minute lead, but I was like, that doesn't mean anything. And also I still have to keep working. Um, and I was working, like I feel like I've had, and maybe it's the memories of how I've run in the past. Um, but I have those days where, you know, those days where you're just like everything feels good and you just feel smooth. And that's what I was expecting, and it was not that. And so I was like, I was not expecting to have to work so hard the whole race. So, but finally, once like once we got into like the four minute, three minute, four minute mark that like I had a lead, I got to kind of back off a little bit. And then I think before Joy, I had about five minutes or something, and I was like, this will take me no time because there's zero line.

SPEAKER_00:

So yeah, lines are lines are short.

SPEAKER_12:

Uh I don't think they were expecting the joy and send this were not expecting that and the photography not at all. Because I came in hot and I was like, We gotta get this done, and I like freaked out, put your picture in that I bolted off course.

SPEAKER_00:

Um so uh how did it turn out?

SPEAKER_12:

You've seen it so good, so good freaking out with with joy, um, in sadness, obviously. So it's kind of like you know, it was kind of like, well, that's my race, it's joyful and sadness, so whatever.

SPEAKER_00:

Wonderful.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, without Greg screaming on the TTC, how is the crowd support at this race compared to the other marathons that you've done?

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, it's it's like listen, I'm doing trail races, let's put that in perspective. So trail races, it's like the starting line is epic, and then you're pretty much on your own for the whole race because no one's gonna go out um in the middle of a 50k on the mountain. That's not true. I mean, there's people that definitely get on course, there's eight stations. Um, and I really, I really love that also. I love just feeling like I'm just running a Sunday run on the trails. Um and so that I do love with trail, but I knew so I knew from um cheering the day before that TCC was gonna be epic. I didn't expect that. I'm glad that we cheered there. Um, shout out to Kate O'Malley. Um, she picked that spot. Uh, I'm glad that we cheered there because it was like, oh, like what a boost before you get to see all the runners, and it was just a big, fun crowd. And then there is, there was, I remember, and I still get chills thinking about it when I was coming out of Main Street. You're running towards the castle. The crowds were unbelievable. You know, it's five o'clock in the morning. The crowd, like it was deafening. It reminded me of the Olympic trials. There was points in the Olympic trials and the New York City marathon when I ran it, and it's deafening. You can't hear anything except just like screaming, cheering. And I wanted to make it a point to like scan the crowds because I was like, you need to remember this. This is such a special moment. Like it's almost like you'd get that moment to yourself a little bit because you're like there was a couple dudes running near me, but then it was just me. And like Mark, again, he's amazing. Anytime we were coming up on a big crowd or even like a small pocket of people, he would shine his flashlight on me and he would say, Leave female, leave female. And the and the people go nuts. Cause I think some people don't realize what's going on or like where you're at in the race. Um so that was just it's so special. And then just like getting to yell like un poco loco at Miguel and like, you know, all the characters. Like I was like waving all the characters, and then just like there's just nothing like it. I feel like also people get it. Like they get, they get why I'm there, they get the costumes, like it's just a different vibe, and it's oh like what a way to kick off the year just with like the crowds, the support, everything that Len Disney has to offer.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, so so basically for your race, the most of the cheering was that Magic King, the start line, Magic Kingdom, TTC, but there there was no cheering, I guess, for the parks run open when you ran through Animal Kingdom or Hollywood Studios, were they?

SPEAKER_12:

Um, I don't think so.

SPEAKER_00:

No, I don't think so either.

SPEAKER_12:

But there's still people, I'm curious what it's like, because there was still people like everywhere. I mean, there was like workers, uh but I guess no, it's pretty quiet.

SPEAKER_07:

Well, Brittany, we can tell you from experience from back of the Packers that once you get into Epcot for the finish, there's two types of people that are spectating in the park. The first group are the most enthusiastic people that you have ever met before in your life. And then the opposite side of that spectrum, it's what did I just walk into? Why am I being herded like cattle through this theme park?

SPEAKER_12:

How funny.

SPEAKER_00:

We're annoying them. You're holding me up. I live with it.

SPEAKER_12:

Were a lot of people like yelling like, go flower or anything like that? No. Uh, in fact, one of my favorite moments, um, I people really liked the ears. I think they didn't know who I was from the front, obviously. And then when I passed, they could tell I was a skunk. Um, the best part, there were two guys early-ish in the race that were running near me. And one guy, um, he came up and he had an accent. So I was like, like, you know, spoke he spoke fine English, but like he had an accent. And he was asking me, like, why am I here or what am or who am I or something, or like, why am I here? And I was like, Well, I'm just running the race. Like, what are you asking? And then he was like, No, where do you come from? And I was like, What? Um, and he was, and then he asked me, like, are you Loony? And I was like, What? And I was like, No, I'm the funny runner. Like, what are you asking? He was asking me if I was Looney Tunes. He thought I was peppy looking. I figured that out. I was like, Oh, I was like, No, I flower from Bambi. Um, so that was good. Um, so I confused some people, which was cool.

SPEAKER_13:

So going into that final stretch though, like, how were you feeling when you turned that corner, you saw the finish line, you're like, man, that's it.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, I mean, same as you always feel at the end of a marathon. Like, you're like, did I just do that? We got it's here. And then it was like, pretend like I like pretend like I'm happy because I was like waving at the crowds and stuff. Um and I also was just like, you don't need to sprint this in, like, just soak it up, enjoy it. Um, and like also don't don't make a dumb face or something when you cross the finish line. Yeah. Um, all the things that we think about, like everything that everybody's cracking when you're like, okay, I saw so many people when I was cheering at the end that we're like, okay, should we hold hands? Like, we'll hold hands and then we'll like smile. Like, people are like prepping their finish line cross. I'm doing the exact same thing, just like solo. Um, but I'm as I was happy to be dad. And then I knew that Justin and Hugo were gonna be at the finish. Um, so I was just like, that's what got me through too. I was like, seriously, like the I'm closer to Hugo. Excuse me, I'm closer to Hugo. I'm getting there, I'm closer to Hugo. And then I was like, he doesn't care what I do. Like, he just cares that like mom is there and she's happy. And like I was also like, I'm not gonna blow myself out and be miserable. Like, I'm gonna just cruise this in, enjoy it, and then like make sure he knows that I love being here and that I appreciate him and Justin getting up, you know, at the crack of dawn to come see me at the finish, which they barely, barely made it. Apparently, they were to the finish line. Um, they barely made it because of like parking and um the closed streets and all of that crazy.

SPEAKER_13:

Oh yeah. Because what time of the day did you finish?

SPEAKER_12:

724.

SPEAKER_13:

Oh. That must be nice.

unknown:

No.

SPEAKER_13:

Oh, you got to finish like around sunrise. Oh, that would be pretty.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, it was great. I mean, everything was it was great.

SPEAKER_00:

Great race, but a lot of our friends came to know you from a viral video at the very end of everybody's race. And that was you escorting the final finisher, not across the line, because you left that moment to her, but those last few steps. Talk us through that. Tell us how that came to be and how it was.

SPEAKER_12:

So I'll take you through my finish line to that finish line. So my finish line, Hugo's there, Justin's there, it's great. They don't give you a second, you're on camera. Like, um, so Good Morning America is there, and they're like new state, and so they pull you pretty quick and they want to get the interviews and all of that. And so I was doing interviews and I was like, oh my god, my stomach hurts so bad. Um, and I was like, I gotta, I gotta go. Um, so hauled it over to a forward body. Um, stomach was still feeling wretched. Um, so went into the med tent with the intent of being there for like, I don't know, 15 minutes. I was like, I just need to lay down for a second. Um, and the cramp, stomach cramps got worse. So I was in there for like over an hour, got an IB, um, just like for rehydration, all the things. Um, everything was fine. It was just like waiting for this like stomach stuff to pass. So got out, Justin and Hugo were there. Hugo's losing his mind because he's over it. Um, I felt bad because Justin hadn't slept, and I was like, oh, like my runners are still out there. And the my favorite part of these races is cheering the finish line. So I was like, such the Sophie's choice moment. I was like, do I go with my son and my husband? And like, do I do I step into my mom mode or do I like stay in my running mode? And Justin was amazing. He was like, stay, this is what you want to do. I got him. We're gonna go now. So they took off, that's what they did. So I was like amazing. So then I just went over to the finish, and luckily, like I've got the credentials or whatever. So I got to be on the opposite side of the main crowd. Um, so I was tracking my runners, but then like from the day before cheering at the half, and then at the finish, it's just like my favorite thing in the world to do. Like, my like I yelled kachow at every single lightning that I saw. Um, I yelled, you disgust me to every disgust that I saw. Um, I said, uh, I kept yelling, like, you're not trash to Forkies, like a call. It's and like people catch these moments of like, what? Like they're so discommodulated. And then by the end, when those like fin those final finishers start to come through, you can just, you can almost just see their stories written on them of what it has taken them to get there. Like, cause I mean, I'm a hundred meters from the finish line at that where I was cheering, and you can just like see it. Like they are like, they're tearing up. It's joyful. It's you're they're over it. And it was just like, if, and so many people I caught eyes with during my races, like you, Greg, where it's just like sometimes that's all you need is just this moment of like, oh, like someone sees me. And like that's my goal is like make eye contact, yell something absurd, cheer them on, or just like whatever that is. So it's my favorite thing to do. I got to see my runners come through. Um, and then the balloon ladies came, those final finishers chewed them, but then there was still that pack of cyclists in the very back. And I was like, oh, I cheer for the cyclists as they come through. Like, I cheer for the balloon ladies, and then I cheer for all the cyclists out there. Um, because I'm like, man, I'm like, you've been out there too. Um, all the things. So then they were still coming, I was like, what's happening? And the final runner was coming through, and she just looked devastated. Like, oh, I just like won't forget that moment. She had her maleficent ears on, or whatever this horn, I don't know, whatever. Um, and I just saw her and I just was like, girl, I have been there. And you could tell that she wasn't expecting to be the last place finisher. Like, I think some people might be like, I know this is where I'm gonna be today. That's cool. She didn't, you could just tell. And I was like, I have been there. I have been this in these races and these moments so many times. And I was like, please don't. And I think she was, I'm almost positive she did dopey. I can't remember. But like she, she she was just so alone. Like, that was the thing that I was like, everyone's just watching and staring. And I was like, and luckily, where I was in the um fence had a break in it, and I was like, wash my stuff, wash my stuff. And I just like like got out there, and I just was like, you can't have like I don't even remember really what I said, but I just in my mind, I was like, she's just like an athlete coach. Like it would be no different than like my middle schoolers of like and my middle school team, it's like we cheer for every single person on the track. We do not leave the track, we don't leave the course until that last runner has come through. It's just what we do. So it was just like, that's just what we do. Um, and she just I was like, Do you think you can run it in? Like, can you can we like run this in? Like you can do this. And that was one of the things I was telling her, was like, you want to try? And she was like, I don't know. And I was like, should we just try to run? And we took a few steps. And once she started, once I knew she like had that little bit of run, uh, that that was just like that, like, there you go, like you got this. Um, and that's when I just like darted off the side. Um, because I was like, she's got it. Like she just, I just couldn't leave her, I couldn't leave her out there. Like that was just like a moment. I was just like, it was just such an like in the moment, I was just like, this is oh, I could just feel her still.

SPEAKER_07:

No, Brittany, I want to thank you so much for taking the time to not only be there for your runners and and again, and this is why I'm calling you the GOAT, because not only are you there for your clients, but you're also there for the community. And I think what made that viral moment so special for not only that runner, but for yourself and the entire Rundisney community is not to the extent of yours, which is I'm which I'm glad that positivity outweighs negativity, but there was also another real or social media video that kind of went just as viral, but not as viral as yours. And it was the last finisher of the half marathon. And the the essentially the gist of it was this is why no one takes Disney Runners seriously, because it was the last it was the last two um finishers walking across the finish line, and essentially this real disparaging them. And we we don't need that kind of negativity in this sport, in this and this community, and just in the world in general. So obviously, you did what you did out of the goodness of your heart with without even thinking about you know that that viral moment. So, again, just personally from the community, thank you for being you and doing what you did to just be joyful and and and be bing bong and and and shine positivity over this entire community.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, thanks. Um it works yeah, like um, I care about this community, I care about running, I care about it so much that like thank you. Um yeah, it just means a lot. Like, and I've been there like like that happened to be in Boston, and somebody just like randomly helped me on course, and like to anybody that's worried about getting last place or any of those like terrible videos that come out, like the half-notter thought, and I'm like, I have seen I have I've been watching these runners, just my runners that I work with for six months putting in day-to-day work. I mean, you don't know what it's like to get to that finish line. Maybe they were just like, I've had enough and I'm going to cross that finish line, and that's enough. You know, like you don't know what anybody's story is, and it's nobody's place to judge, and they're out there doing it. And like, I don't know. I just think it's like, I think also now, you know, having a kid, it's like, oh my gosh, this is so much harder. You just never know what anybody's stories are. Like, I'm coaching moms, I'm coaching people with kids, and I'm like, and this is my job, and it's hard. And like you're doing it, this is not your job. This is for fun, this is for recreation. Like, you need to be encouraged. You need to keep going. You need to like if like you need to know that there's a place for you, even if you don't feel like a runner. Like Disney might be that intro, like, place and where run walk is super welcome. And it needs to be because we need those people. What if that's the start of their entire fitness journey and they like it was a big deal that they crossed the finish line and someone like that's not, I don't know. I just think like leading with kindness is the way to go, and especially in running, like I never want anybody to feel running is what accepted me, and the running people expect accepted me. You know, I was the sneaky kid and I had lots of friends with my runners, like, because I was like just we just ran together. Um, and so I think there's a there needs to be a home for it. And I think Disney is the place, and you know, if people aren't supportive of that, like it's noise and like the rest of the like there's always villains in every Disney story. So we gotta like we gotta keep being the sidekicks and like the flounders of positivity and you know, all of those things. I think like one we can make a difference with it, and it's important to me to protect that with running, but also run Disney because like this community has opened its arms and given me the biggest bear hug. And like I just feel like I said, when I stepped in the starting, like I felt like I was at home and because I just do get so much support, and I like the least it can do is push it back into the world in this one tiny pocket of our of our little running roles.

SPEAKER_00:

That's awesome. Part part of me wants to drop the mic right there.

SPEAKER_12:

What I was like, I'm I increasing.

SPEAKER_00:

I really do because no, no, you are encapsulating everything I love about Run Disney and everything I love about the the Rise and Run family, too. That anybody, anyway, you you just embody all that. I know I was tickled to death to see you at the end of the course. I was just dead.

SPEAKER_12:

When I tell you, Bob, I was losing my mind. I was like, because I didn't expect to see you, and I was just like, I couldn't.

SPEAKER_00:

I was I was just happy to be that far along. But uh yeah, yeah, but that's part of it. I mean, yeah, I'm I'm not going to I'm not going to say more because you said it beautifully. I would like to switch gears a little bit and go into some coaching questions for you. And our friends will get, you know, I'm sure our friends will get something out of this. Um well let's let's start this. What can recreational runners, run Disney types, what can they learn from elite runners such as yourself and how you approach race execution? Is there any crossover there?

SPEAKER_12:

Oh my gosh, totally. Look, at the end of the day, we're doing the exact same thing. And that's why I love running so much, is it's like we're we're running the same distance here. Um, and yes, it's at different speeds, but like I'm going through the same same hurdles as you. Um I think um practicing, which I'm proud of myself that I felt like I did this training cycle and that did come into play during this race. Practicing um pivoting in the moment. Like practicing like those days that just are hard that you're out there, um, just stick in it and um practice find a strategy that works that gets you out of that moment. Um, and luckily, you know, for me it was just like I have to think about Hugo and then I'm like, okay, everything's fine in the world. I'm home, it's just running. Um, or like, okay, like what can I what can I see? Can I find pink? Like pink's my favorite color, obviously. Can I spot pink? And that gets me out of my head and reminds me it's just running. But it takes practice to do that. And I feel like because I had been doing that throughout training, you know, that it did come into play during the race. And the other thing I think that has really um come into play that I really resonate with a lot of my runners is like like the training does not need to be perfect. Like I have had to let training days go. I didn't have my like last long run that I was hoping, and that probably played a role into like how I felt on race day. But I just like I don't even remember what it was. It's probably like Hugo's sick or I was sick, or I don't know. Um you still get it done and you might have to work a little bit harder, but like training doesn't have to be perfect, and you can still get to the starting line, you can still get across the finish line, you can still have a great time. Um, so I think just practicing for me, it's more like the mental stuff that I think has a bigger impact than like the specific trainings outside of all the things that we know, you know, of fueling and sleeping and getting long runs and all of that. I think it's the mental practice.

SPEAKER_08:

What is something that you wish more runners understood about long-term progress?

SPEAKER_12:

Uh, that it looks like a mountain range. So something that I had to learn early on is like mountain ranges, you can't always keep going up, up, up, up, up. Like otherwise, like the mountain, like the mountain has to have a peak. So when like you don't always know where you are in the mountain range, in the sense of like you're climbing, climbing, climbing. Maybe there is a flat plateau for a second, and then maybe it goes down, but you're climbing, climbing, but you're not going all the way back down. Um, you're like doing like there's ebbs and flows in all of training. And as long as you're continuously kind of rising up, you're in a good spot. But mountain ranges have to have peaks and valleys. And I'll say one of the biggest things that I learn and like can fully embrace is time away from running. Um, because I stopped running when I was five months pregnant. I didn't run again until six weeks postpartum. So I had a good, you know, six at least six months off of running. And um I thought, like, well, there goes all my fitness. You know, I gained like 45 pounds or something like that, and had a baby, all the things, wasn't running. And I was so amazed at how quickly you can get back on the mountain and you can like keep rising. But like, who cares if I came back down to sea level? Like, I just kid to keep building. So I think I don't even remember what the question was.

SPEAKER_00:

Um it's okay. It's keep open, you're doing good, you're on a roll.

SPEAKER_12:

I'm like, oh my god, I'm like giving you these weird like analogies in my brain. Um, but I think just like let there be ups and flows, let there be peaks and valleys. Like you don't always know where you're at. And when it starts to get really hard, is you're like, think about when you're actually climbing a mountain or in the top of a hill or something. It always gets the hardest when you're almost at the very top.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

So just like you just gotta keep going and you're gonna get to the very top. Um, so that's that's kind of like what I tell what I'm trying to like embrace myself also.

SPEAKER_00:

Awesome. Progress is not linear, totally.

SPEAKER_12:

Ebbs and progress, not perfection.

SPEAKER_07:

There you go. All right, Brittany. One theme that we have seen on our Facebook page the these past two weeks is I just did this amazing accomplishment, whether that was their first 5k or they tackled the dopey challenge. And right now they're going through those post-marathon blues, or or the the term that that we credit to you from the first time that we had you on back in 2022 is the idea of the dopey downers.

SPEAKER_12:

Did I say that?

SPEAKER_07:

Well, we think so.

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah, we think so.

SPEAKER_12:

Dark bank, if you didn't, if you didn't, you better start taking credit for it. I'm taking credit.

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, get get get get that uh that pad and trademark, and it'll all be yours. Just remember us when when you make your millions.

SPEAKER_12:

I'll remember you when Disney sues me for there.

SPEAKER_07:

You go. But you know, similar to how you're talking about, you know, like the you know, sometimes the hardest part, you know, is right at the peak there. Obviously, coming down off of that that peak into that valley. What advice can you give to our listeners on how to stay motivated through their training cycle when you know maybe someone's not fortunate enough to have the perfect season and you know they have you know Disneyland coming up next weekend or Princess or Springtime Surprise, you know, maybe their next race is several months away. What can you tell people to stay motivated and keep on with their training?

SPEAKER_12:

Um, kind of like I was just saying, um, don't be afraid to take time away. I think if you've been training for Dopey or the Marathon or even just a 5K, that's a lot of time that you've been training and you've gotta give yourself a break. And I promise, I promise your fitness doesn't disappear. Um, I think that that's something that people are like, but if I'm not training, if I'm not running, and I'm like, nope, I promise it doesn't disappear. You might not feel as zippy for the first like couple of runs back, it'll come back. Like your fitness, it takes way longer. Um, and don't forget, like it doesn't, all the work that you put in over the years doesn't go away. All that mental training that stays in the mental bank. So it's like, and all of your life stuff also goes, that's money in the mental bank, in the sense of like just let yourself be in your life for a little bit and like reap, like let your joy like build back up. Let your desire for running build back up. Um and don't feel like you have to. If you're feeling like dreading getting back into training, that's a good indicator, like take a little break, you'll be fine. Um, and then like I think also if you don't have a race coming up, like it's okay to just like feel the blues. Right now, I'm in my like, I don't really feel like running that much. Like, I just feel like doing like a short run, that's how I feel. Maybe Shmar, I won't feel like it at all. Um, but we gotta hold space for the the dopey downers and the like post-marathon blues. Think about it like the characters in Inside Out. Like we've got to have the sadness a little bit too. And she's gotta exist, but she doesn't have to be all consuming and like you know, she gets her, she gets her moment at the switchboard. Um, and then Joy takes back over or whoever. Um, but I think like take some time away, remember why you love to run, and then that's gonna actually be a motivating factor of like, oh yeah, like I love this, or like reflect on the good moments of your races, and then reflect on the things of like I could have done this better. Like that's kind of where I'm at is like, all right, like I loved it, I love running, I know why, and I know what I want to like work on in this next training cycle. Now I'm ready to get after it, but this week I just don't feel like it, but it'll come. Um, and I'll be ready, you know, to ease back in maybe next week or something. But um, I think just be be gentle with yourself. Um, and also don't forget, like, especially if you've done dopey, like the dopey is the most absurd reason. Like so it's dopey for a reason. It's so stupid. Um, so let yourself like like get off this crazy train for a minute. Um, because it's you know, it's one of the most ridiculous races that exists.

SPEAKER_00:

It's almost a Disney rite of passage. It's it shouldn't be, but it almost is.

SPEAKER_10:

All right, Brittany. So is there anything you saw Dobe runners doing during this marathon weekend that made you smile or impressed you?

SPEAKER_12:

Um, the first thing that comes to mind, the costumes. I mean, the cool part is you know, seeing everybody during the half was rad. I mean, all of Disney weekend is great because everybody's in costume and that's my jam. Um, but I loved all the costumes during the half, but then obviously you knew who was doing dopey because they were dressed in the colors or like there were some elaborate costumes. Uh, some of the women's makeup was flawless. And I was like, these women put some really good effort into this makeup and it looks amazing. And I'm a makeup runner, and so I was like, oh, like that impressed me. Um, I always like it when the people come across the finish line or they're coming towards the finish line with their beers. Um I love that. Um, and I think just again, you can no matter where you are in the race, whether it's like towards the front, towards the middle, towards the back, you can you can see and you can feel the energy of like what it has taken to get there. Again, dopey is a stupid, stupid thing. I kept telling all my runners, like, you have to get it in your brain that this is an ultra marathon. This is not just like like you maybe have done marathons and maybe you're good at those, but like you have to approach this mentally like this is an ultra marathon. You have done something absurd. Um, let's not even get into the start times of these races. Um but oh my gosh, we Bob, we have to have matching glitter lips.

SPEAKER_00:

You did you know about that?

SPEAKER_12:

I love those. Tell me more.

SPEAKER_00:

I need to share. You need to know this, and I don't think I've told you this. You and Jack are the reason I run in costume, and I run in costume so often now that I was getting off a bus one day. A whole lot of folks around Run Disney recognize me, okay? They recognize the voice, recognize me. There are two women who were getting off the bus, and one says something to the other, and she goes, Oh, that's Bob. Everybody knows him because he runs in fancy costumes. But that's you. You and Jack, you and Jack did that when you talked about. I remember you talking about virtually running in costume gives other people so much joy. And one of my first questions, the one I did first, Jack talked me into was Sam Eagle. Um but the next one I did was Tinkerbell.

SPEAKER_09:

I remember.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh yeah, and I come out, I come out of the hotel feeling goofy, and the first couple people, the looks were perfect, and anyway, that's you. You did that, and glitter lips, glitter lips was Cruella Deville.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh my god, if that's my legacy, I can die on a happy hill. So at the finish line, um, like I got over to my spot and I was like, you know, cheering in my groove, and by the end, I was hanging over the railing, losing my mind, like gotcha! And like it, because you it really does. Like, I'm like, that doesn't happen at a regular marathon, um, where you're just like all the costume, all the things, and then just the creativity too, when you spot the like random character that you're like, you know, I went the berserk for Bing Bong. Um, I saw this chick and I was like, girl, we are speaking the same language, and I lost my mind. So it's like it's almost like this like silent camaraderie of whatever your whoever your character choice is. Like, I uh get it and I see you, and this is amazing.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you know, Buzz Lightyear this year, Gaston's grandfather. That was a good one, because I put the black wig on and I have the gray hair on the side, and it didn't work, so I painted the wig gray and I became Gaston's grandfather instead of Gaston. Uh Groot, everybody remembers that's all you there is so much more than this provincial life.

SPEAKER_12:

I tell you what.

SPEAKER_00:

Wonderful stuff. Hey, I love it, and clearly we could go on forever, and we'll figure out a reason to get you back here before too long. But let's wrap up here. If you could say one thing to every runner across the finish line, after you, of course, which means pretty much all of us, uh especially the ones who struggled, what would it be?

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, same team, same dream, man. Like I was in the same boat, like we're all in the same realm. Um, I think it's just like remember that we're all a team, that we're all cheering out your you on. Um your race matters. That's really important. I think no matter where you finished, whether it was first, whether it was last, it doesn't matter. Your race matters. Um, and your journey matters. And I loved the theme. This year it was the story, and like, what's your story? Um, and I really feel like that applied this year. Like I got to see it firsthand, I felt it firsthand. Like, this isn't a different story for me than any other Disney race I've been to. And that's what I kept having to tell myself too of like, okay, but like, look at how far I've come. Like, look at what you've done in a year. And so always look back. Don't forget to like scan. You know, you got a real book and you're scanning, you're like, Oh, I read all these chapters. I'm like, there's more to come. Remember that too. Like, you're just in like the fun chapter in this book. There's more to come. You need maybe you just don't know how long your story is.

SPEAKER_00:

Beautiful stuff. Well, there you go, friends. There you go. That's why that's why we love her. That's why we knew five minutes into the first interview four years ago, she's just one of us.

SPEAKER_12:

Well, and can I say I'm like, you're just like, thank you guys especially for I get so many people that have been that have said they've heard me on here. Um, that there's so many, it's so fun to see all the rise and run swag out there because it's like those are my people too. Um particular have just like from day one, like just embrace me with open arms and um I'm so one of you. Um, I love what you guys do. I love what you guys put out. So thank you guys for just being you. Keep please putting content out. And everybody that's listening, please remember to rate them on whatever you're listening to. Rate, rate, rate. Um, it's important. Five stars, no assumption.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, thank you. All right, Brittany. Uh, we can't thank you enough, but I'm gonna do it anyway. Thanks for sharing your time with us and the joy. We love it, and good luck, and we we'll see you soon. I hope. I'm sorry, it's Disney. We'll see you real soon, I hope.

SPEAKER_14:

Caution runners, the topic is about to change right now.

SPEAKER_00:

I love doing this podcast. I love the Rise and Run family, but I'm not sure I enjoy anything much more than talking with Brittany Charbonneau for about an hour. That is just great stuff. Thank you, Brittany. We are lucky to have you with us. Hey, let's take a look at a couple of announcements. I talked about it earlier in the episode, Disneyland Meetup 3 p.m. picnic area, right outside of the entrance to the Disneyland park. If you're running Disneyland, Disneyland Roll Call will be next week. So get your name in the race report. Our friend Rob, one of our new Patreons, uh, has put an announcement on Facebook to that effect. He also sent me a note telling me we are already at an all-time high number of people who have put their name on the race report for the Disneyland race. So the Disneyland Roll Call will be longer than it's been. Well, the Disneyland Roll Call will set an all-time record, at least until they do another Disneyland race, and we don't know when that's gonna be. Uh, I mentioned earlier, and we are still working on it, our friend Mario has some coins, some of those beautiful dopey challenge coins that he's going to make available to us to raffle off. I thought I'd have all the details by this episode. Sadly, I do not, but we will do our best to work something up, and heck, maybe we'll have it on the Facebook group page very soon.

SPEAKER_07:

Also, in terms of announcements for this week, uh, I know a few people had approached me at Marathon Weekend about this, and uh the form is now posted in our Facebook group. Uh, we are going to run it back. Uh, we are going to get a strong contingent of Ryzen runners to join up with our incredibly amazing friends over at the Will Run 4 podcast, and we're gonna tackle the Loopy Looper Challenge once again. Um, exactly as we did last year, we're looking to formulate teams of four to run the 12-hour relay. So if you are interested in participating and you know, seriously considering it, um, like I said, please head over to our Facebook page, fill out that Google form, and then we will figure out the teams from there and then figure out team captains to help with registrations and payments. What we're trying to aim for here is there is a price increase on March 31st. So we want to try to get all of our teams locked in before that price increase. So, as of the way that the price would stand, if you are interested, it would be$80 a person uh in terms of your team. And the the one thing that I do want to impress upon, because there was um a really good conversation that has already started on that thread, is again, this is a relay that you can sign up if you are interested in doing the individual 12 hour or the individual 24 hour or the 100-mile challenge on your own, fantastic, go for it. But if you're interested in being part of one of these relay teams, you are not running for 12 hours straight. This, you know, typically the way that it worked out last year is when you have these teams of four, you're running just shy of four miles, I would say on average, every 90 minutes to two hours. So, sure, by the end of the day, could you be close to a half marathon? Absolutely, but at the same time, it's not going to be consecutive. And then when you're not running, you're sitting down, you're underneath shade, you're eating food, drinking beverage that is appropriate for you in terms of staying hydrated. It's a wonderful time. And you're sharing a good time with friends. Absolutely. Absolutely. It you know, you can eat all the peanut butter and jelly sandwiches that Jack refuses to eat. So absolutely not. There was pizza there. I much preferred that. But yeah, so even though that interest form is there, if uh you have particular questions about her, feel free to message me on Facebook or send me an email at Greg at Rise and RunPodcast.com and I'd be happy to assist.

SPEAKER_00:

Do you think we could talk Jack into a peanut butter and jelly pizza?

SPEAKER_13:

Oh, they make hot peanut butter and jelly?

SPEAKER_07:

Hold on, hold on. You ready, Bob? This is what you have to do because since you and Jack are our representation on Disneyland, I believe at Goofy's Kitchen, which is the character meal at the Disneyland Hotel, yeah. I believe there is a peanut butter and jelly pizza there. The two of you gotta go and report back.

SPEAKER_01:

Why?

SPEAKER_00:

I don't know why, but it's there. It's goofy, John. It's goofy. Uh doesn't it make sense? That it would be goofy. No, no, I don't recall. I had I had uh the my only other visit out there was Halloween 24, the very hot week. Uh and I did eat at Goofy's Kitchen. I I don't remember it, but I'll bet you're right. I'll bet you it's there.

SPEAKER_13:

It's probably because someone tried to hide it.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh man.

SPEAKER_13:

But I mean, actually, I think they used to do it in Mickey's Chef Mickey's at one point.

SPEAKER_07:

Hey Jack, I just pulled up the uh the menu. Yeah. Confirmed Goofy's signature peanut butter jelly pizza.

SPEAKER_00:

I would try it. I would there you go. I just didn't see it. I would try it. Sounds tasty to me.

SPEAKER_10:

Is it hot?

SPEAKER_00:

I imagine it's warm, Jack. It's yeah.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah, it's probably. Have you ever had like a dessert pizza where they put like the fruit and the crumble on top? Well, oh sure. Jack has not had a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01:

Ever have a Nutella pizza? Uh I meant that lovingly, Jack.

SPEAKER_10:

I like Nutella. You're good. You're good.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, well, the one place by me for dessert, they make a they make it, it's called a Nutella pizza. So it's the it's the pizza dough with Nutella on it and use it like bananas or strawberries.

SPEAKER_00:

All right. Somehow we got a little sidetracked, but loopy looper. We do our best work, Bob, when we get sidetracked. Sounds like a lot of fun, though. It does sound like a lot of fun. And if I was a little bit closer, I'd head that way. Sounds like a good deal. I'm sure you're going to enjoy it. Hey, I want to take a minute to mention some of our affiliates. We haven't done this in a while, but I want to support them and the efforts they're doing with their small businesses. Uh, let's start with our friend Hannah, who makes those really nice temporary tattoos at thestartlineco.com. All one word, thestartlineco.com. I saw a bunch of folks with uh the tattoos at Marathon Weekend, and every one of them. Was saying, man, these things really stay on. I remember. I remember the last one I put on. I had it on for a week and I had to take my fingernails and scrub it off in the shower, but they really do work. I heard from uh Michelle at Fluffy Fizsies. She was very excited at Marathon Weekend. She had a great time. She loved seeing all of her Ryzen Run friends. She wasn't planning on being back at the Expo for Princess, but she will now. So Fluffy Fizsies will be there. You can check out FluffyFizzies.com. Use the code HappyRunning on your orders there for the discount that Michelle gets us. And our our friend Mona at Mona Moon Naturals, all one word. She's got a variety of, well, all natural products from uh lip balm. She's got lotion. What else does she have, Alicia?

SPEAKER_10:

She has lip balm, deodorants, a couple different forms of deodorant. There's hand balm, lotion. I believe she has some like sprays and essential oils as well. But I use the lip balm literally every day. It's sitting here on my desk and I just put it on and it's my favorite thing ever.

SPEAKER_00:

It's that time of year up in Minnesota, isn't it? It's actually kind of that time of year in Florida if you're outside a bunch. But uh Mona Moon Naturals, all one word. R Run Fam. R-R-U-N-F-A-M is the discount code from Mona. Let us see. This is not a Zoom Thursday. The next Zoom call will be Thursday, the 29th of January. No, it won't. Because we'll be at Disneyland. We'll let you know next week. Well, it'll be too late next week. We'll let you know on Facebook. But as of now, I'd say probably not. Upcoming episodes next week, we're still reliving Marathon Weekend when the male champion from the 2026 Walt Disney World Marathon, Matt Hensley, joins us. Look forward to talking with Matt next week. And now please stand clear of the door. It's time for a race report. The race report is sponsored by Thomas Stokes, our friend Tom of Stoked Metabolic Training, Stokes that Stokes.fit slash rise and run coaching is the website. He's got a challenge coming up next month. Got to get more information on that. Got to get Tom in here to talk with us about that. I'll be in contact with him this week, and hopefully, Tom will be with us next week. Uh, he doesn't know that yet. If you're listening, Tom, give me a call. All right. Let's start the race report with a recap of the Walt Disney World Marathon because Alicia wasn't with us when we did the recap show last week, and we don't want to miss out on this. Alicia, how was the marathon for you?

SPEAKER_10:

As we talked about with the what would Alicia do? Um, I did have blisters for um the last, I would say going into Animal Kingdom is when they started. So the last five miles I ended up walking. Um, so the marathon was not perfect, but the reason that I wanted to share my recap is because there was a bigger, more beautiful message with this. Um, around the time that I was um struggling with the blisters to begin with, I saw John, um, which was great to see him. I was like, John, can I stay with you for a little bit? And he was like, Yes, please. Um, which John, I'm not very happy with you for lying to me, but I understand and I still love you. Um, but I after I left John and I was in Blizzard Beach parking lot, I usually get to that point of like coming out of Animal Kingdom and going to Blizzard Beach. And every marathon I've done thus far, this one's number nine for me, I always felt like I really don't know if I'm gonna finish. And this time I knew for sure that there wasn't a doubt in my mind that I was gonna finish, which was a really big deal.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10:

Um, and usually I end up crying because I'm not so confident in myself. But this time I was crying because I was listening to a song. It's called Akon's Beautiful Day, and the lyrics go, God, thank you for sunshine, thank you for rain, thank you for joy, thank you for pain. It's a beautiful day. Um, and because my toes were hurting a little bit, I really just kept listening to that lyric and thinking to myself, I get to do this. And I know I say that on the podcast to our listeners a lot that like we get to do this and it's a beautiful thing. Um but it was truly just kind of amazing to be in that moment again, to do another marathon, to get through passing by nursing boards and still being able to get through the last year of all the struggles and all the work that I had put in and still be able to finish that marathon. It just kind of felt like everything came together, and I was really grateful for my mind and my body. Um and just a reminder to everybody that like even if it doesn't go perfect, we get to do this, and it's a beautiful thing.

SPEAKER_00:

It is indeed. It is indeed, and they are emotional experiences.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Um I don't know that came through with Brittany. It comes through, I think it comes through with all of us. I I know there's a moment and like you said, if you tow the line for a marathon, you are not guaranteed you're gonna finish.

SPEAKER_10:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

And training makes it more likely that you will, but you don't know. And then there comes a moment when you realize, yes, I am. And that's a very emotional moment. You've done nine, I've done nine. Uh seven at Disney, and yeah, there's one of those moments, and I I just get the chills, you know, or maybe I get choked up, or maybe you'll see me on the course talking to myself out loud. I do that. Because I realize I realize I'm gonna make it. So beautiful, beautiful message about an exciting event. And yeah, I got to see you a couple times too. Most of that was because of the way the course was going back and forth and me taking the lightning lane and you guys catching back up with me and all that. It was good. So, all right. Alicia, thanks. Uh, I'm glad you got a chance to share that with everyone. That's a great message. All right, let's take a look at the rest of the report, and we'll start on New Year's Day, going back just a little bit. Denise ran the New Year's race at Tanglewood Running of the Lights. Started at midnight with the countdown to the new year. Beautiful run, but it was cold. Big deal. Denise finished first in her age group at that race. Let's go to this week and Saturday in South Carolina. The Defuski Island half marathon. Beth ran this one. They're not in the report, but I know our friends Adam and Coach Chris Twiggs ran it also. Beth ran the half. Adam and Chris ran the full. Crystal and Elizabeth ran the half. They thought it was neat. They got to take the ferry to the start line. Uh, they loved the cinnamon rolls and coffee at the start, as well as the barbecue brunch, barbecue lunch at the end. Well, there you go. If you need a reason to run at Defuski Island, plus I imagine it's very pretty. A lot of different surfaces on this course. They had some sand, some crushed oyster shells, some hard top roads, some boardwalks, nice beach side mile toward the finish. Pretty neat metal, lots of smiles, and Crystal and Elizabeth have checked another state off of their list for half marathons. In Tewkesbury, Massachusetts, Sophie did the Fudsickle 5K week three. I think we reported on week two earlier, like last week maybe. Kathy was in Indianapolis for the time travel 10K. Doesn't mention anything about a Mandalorian, does, however, tell us that the temperature was so darn cold that her ears didn't thaw out until late in the afternoon. But she finished first in her age group. Over the weekend, there was an event at Key West. Lisa was there and ran the Big Pecker Challenge, which is the 5K, 10K, and half marathon at the Key West Run Fest. Weekend long event in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Louisiana Marathon Weekend. Mandy was there. 5K and the half for the weekend. This is the Bayou part of the Beach to Bayou Challenge. Kind of chilly for Louisiana, but not windy. Got to run the 5K with her friends. She was ready at the half the next day for the cooler temperatures. This is a terrific route on this run. Runs through the LSU campus and around Tiger Stadium. Running through the neighborhoods was also great. 15th anniversary of this outstanding event. Let's move now to Sunday. And if you're a real careful listener to the Rise and Run podcast, you may remember our next guest. Back in 2024, Lucy and her friend Carly joined us to tell us about flying most pretty much across the country, wasn't it, Lucy?

SPEAKER_11:

It was, yes.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, that was pretty neat. Um are you still flying, Lucy? I'm just curious.

SPEAKER_11:

Yes, I am.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, cool. What are you doing now?

SPEAKER_11:

Um I'm still doing engineering for the most part. Um, but I got my flight instructor rating in November of this last year, so I've been doing a little bit of that on the side as well.

SPEAKER_00:

CFI. All right, good for you. I'm proud of you. That's good. I mean, it's a neat thing. And uh you told me you bought an airplane?

SPEAKER_11:

We yeah, my husband and I um he is was working towards the hours for the airline that he's going to be going to, and so it ended up um we did the math and it ended up being cheaper to purchase an older aircraft than it was to um rent one for the same amount of time.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11:

So it's been fun.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, I'm glad you're enjoying it. That's neat. And and friends, if you want to, if you want to listen to that, it's back in June of 24, I think. Uh but that's not but I invited Lucy back tonight to talk about she's dag nabbit. We're talking, it was so hot for marathon weekend, and you were down there, weren't you?

SPEAKER_11:

I was.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. So you went from the marathon back to your home in Vermont and ran the Freezy Cheeks 5K, a first frost in Essex Junction. Uh, I'm gonna, Lucy, tell us about it, please.

SPEAKER_11:

Um, so this race is it comes in a set of three. And since Disney has conditioned me to sign up for challenges, I signed up for the group.

SPEAKER_00:

It does.

SPEAKER_11:

So this is the first of the three races. The next one's in February, and the third one's in March. Um, and it was cold.

SPEAKER_00:

Uh-huh. And it'll be cold in February. You got a chance in March. You got a chance.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, I have a chance of maybe shorts in March, but it was so cold. Um, it felt like I think it would, it feels like it was about 19 or 20 degrees. Um, and we had just gotten snow the night before, so it ended up that the sidewalks were horrible condition-wise. Um but they blocked off a lot of the course and it was in a small neighborhood, so we were able to run on the plowed road for the most part.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay.

SPEAKER_11:

Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

Everybody make it through okay.

SPEAKER_11:

I think so. Yeah. They did a waterfall start thing. So you could start anytime between 11 and 12 in the morning. Um, and it seems like everyone made it through.

SPEAKER_00:

That's good. That's good. I mean, when it's in the teens, it's good that they didn't start you at like 5 30 or something. Yeah. All on Disney. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11:

No, this when the sun was out, it was nice.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. I found that for my cold weather days to be true. If the sun's out and it's not windy, you can handle some really cold temperatures. But uh this one uh started that's nice between 11 and 12. Started out at a brewery.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, so um Essex Junction is right near Burlington, Vermont, and the Burlington area is really famous for having some of the most breweries per capita of anywhere in the US. So um each of the races for this series starts at a different brewery. So this first one was Black Flannel, which they had tasty beer, um, and then it'll go to zero gravity and then switch back, and then all throughout different spots in Burlington. So it's a different course each time.

SPEAKER_00:

Ah, that's nice. Very good. So you did this one, but you were down here the week before running the marathon.

SPEAKER_11:

Yes, I was.

SPEAKER_00:

How'd that go?

SPEAKER_11:

Um, so I was hoping to go for um a good, like a PR time for me. Um, a couple days before I kind of come down with this little like head cold thing. And so um, I felt pretty good morning of, but like I made it to mile 10 or 11 and my stomach just wasn't feeling it. I wasn't feeling great. So right after Magic Kingdom, I made the choice to like slow down and really enjoy like the rest of the course. Um, got some character photos, took some pictures of everything going on, got to really enjoy the super cool Star Wars section um around mile 14.

SPEAKER_00:

And was it dark when you went through there?

SPEAKER_11:

It was dark when I went through.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11:

So it was it was pretty cool. Um, that was part of the reason I was like, I really want to get to that section when it's dark. Um, I had a proof of time, so I was able to go out as part of Corral A. So I made it through that section of a lot of the sections of the course that were normally crowded pretty easily without having to um maneuver around a bunch of people. Um, but overall I had a really good time. I think it's some of the best, most fun race photos I've ever gotten. Um, and my mom and then my friend who you guys interviewed before, Carly, they were both there cheering me on at different spots.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, nice. Nice. I'm sorry we didn't see. Um I'm looking at your 5k time here in the snow and the cold of 22 minutes and 30 seconds. That's pretty daggum impressive.

SPEAKER_06:

Um I was really premised.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you should have been. That's great. Are you uh are you around Boston qualifying time? Are you close?

SPEAKER_11:

I'm close. Um, my last marathon was or my one before Disney was Montreal, and that was just over 325. Um, for women of my age group, 325 flat is the qualifying, but then the buffer last year was around five minutes, so 320 would probably get me in.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we understand that. That's that's kind of rough. Um I'm hoping.

SPEAKER_11:

I just hopefully I'm getting a coach this week.

SPEAKER_00:

So nice, nice work towards that goal. You know, we we talked about it. We didn't start off with this one. How did you get started out running?

SPEAKER_11:

Um, so I got started actually in Disney World during the marathon weekend. Um, it was my grandmother, my mom, and myself, and we ran the 2010 5K. And that was kind of the beginning of you know, enjoying running like with my family, and it was just an amazing experience. I remember it was up themed that year.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_11:

It was really fun. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

That's before you and I started running at Disney, John. Yep. I think I started in 16. 19. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11:

And then I ran like in middle school, high school, and then my first year of college. I took a little bit of a break after that. I kind of got a little bit burnt out and then started again with Dopey 2022.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. All right. Good, good deal, good deal. Uh, congratulations on all that.

SPEAKER_11:

Thank you.

SPEAKER_01:

So, uh, what's coming up next on your schedule?

SPEAKER_11:

I have a few. Um, I have a half marathon coming up in April. I'm running Chicago in October, and then I'll hopefully be back at Disney if I can secure a half marathon bib for one and nine.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, we're looking forward to seeing you there. Uh, Chicago, how many world majors so far?

SPEAKER_11:

That is it'll be my first one. It'll be your first one after like four years of trying.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_11:

I'm very excited.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I'm sure you are, and I'm sure you're gonna do great. That sounds uh fun. Sounds like you're doing wonderfully well. Good luck with the run and good luck with the flying. Thank you, Lucy. Thanks for coming back to join us again. We appreciate it.

SPEAKER_11:

Yes, it was wonderful talking to you guys again.

SPEAKER_00:

Continuing on Sunday and heading out west to warmer climbs. The Rose Bowl, in fact. The Rose Bowl 5K and a half marathon in Pasadena, California. Kayla was there. The event starts and finishes at the iconic stadium. Chili for California, mid-50s at the start, warmed up to the mid-70s with sunshine, almost no wind. This course for Kayla, deeply nostalgic, she's biked these roads for years, knows every hill by heart. Training with the LA Roadrunners plan paid off for her. She consistently ran and loved every mile, finished in time to cheer and film her son's kid race. Then they picnicked on the field with family making for a great event. Let's head over to Cambourne in Cornwall, the United Kingdom, for the and Anna does this to me all the time. These are English words. I should know how to pronounce them. I'm gonna go with Trevithic 12K or Trevithic. Yeah, it's one of those. It's probably neither, and I'll hear from Anna about it. But she finished that event in the UK. The Shark Bite Half Marathon took place at New Smyrna Beach in Florida. Ellie was there. Ellie chatted with Adam for a few minutes, and I think I misidentified. I think I said Adam was at the Fuski. Adam was at this race. Uh Ellie chatted with Adam a few minutes before the race. Then she ran with local running buddies. It started out cool over in New Smyrta Beach, but the sun came out and it sure did warm up after that. They got it finished, received a ridiculously large medal. And even better, a pint beer glass. And even better yet, glass was filled with beer. Good job, Ellie. Down in Miami, our man in South Florida, Robbie, did the trophy trot 5K, one of the events leading up to the college football national championship game that occurred just last night. Lots of Miami and Indiana fans there. You can probably guess who Robbie was pulling for. Sorry, Robbie. A 5K and a 10K up and down the water in Miami Beach. Nice shot. Shakeout run following last week's Marathon Weekend. And we finished the race report on Monday, which was a holiday in the United States. Was Martin Luther King Day in the US? So Sarah ran the MLK Chasing the Dream 5K in Las Vegas. First year for this run. Weather was ideal for running. A beverage truck at the end, and cute dogs to meet. The perfect way to kick off the 2026 season. And a really good way to end the race report for episode 226. So that'll do it, my friends. Hope you enjoyed this episode. I know we enjoyed bringing it to you. Friends, and if you run, you know you are our friend. We recognize that this is a time we talk with Brittany about it where you can get a little bit down. It's okay. It's okay to relax, take a little break. You're a runner. There's a reason you do this. That's not going to change. If you're feeling a little down about it right now, you'll be back, I promise. See you soon. Until then, happy running.

SPEAKER_07:

The Rise and Run Podcast discusses general information about Run Disney and is in no way affiliated with Run Disney or the Walt Disney Company. Any information or advice discussed on this podcast should not be considered medical advice and should always consult with your healthcare provider or event organizer.

SPEAKER_02:

Rise and run, let the anthem be spun for every heart that runs for fun.

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